Abandon All Hopes. Say Goodbye To Positivity.
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Editor’s Note: This is a guest post by Michael Sappler from NothingToFind.com. I hope you enjoy it! Be sure to check out his unique perspectives at his blog!
In this article I will tell you something that is contrary to what many personal development and self-help experts say: Positivity is actually a barrier to success.
“What?” You may say. “But positive thinking helped me in many ways!”
But listen up. I’ll tell you a secret:
Positive thinking is just a cure for the symptom. The core reason for lack of success is identification with the results of your actions.
The typical story of people interested in personal development and positive thinking may look like this:
At some point in their lives these people discover that their negative self-image and self-talk is a huge waste of energy and a barrier to success in life.
So what do they do?
They try to change their way of thinking. Think positive. Get a positive self-image.
This may seem intelligent and logical at first. And it will also bring success!
Yes, you will succeed! If you are persistent and flexible enough you will find success in most undertakings.
But when the time comes when you have formed a new positive self-image through success and experience it will actually limit your future success. It will become a barrier. Do you know why?
Because defining yourself is limiting yourself.
Here is what happens: After you have some success in your area of expertise and have formed a new self-image, you will subconsciously sabotage yourself by trying to keep your new self-image intact. I will give some examples for this later.
So what do you do?
Recognize that identifying with your results is one-dimensional thinking. The world is multidimensional. Everything is interconnected. There are too many factors, and the “I” that caused the results does not exist.
You already did the first step by letting go of your negative self-image and not identifying with negative results such as failure. You learned to become persistent and not to give up.
To become a true master the second step is also needed, which is not identifying with positive results! A true master does not hope to win. He does not think about his past successes or failures. A true master just takes action.
I once read that when Roman emperors came back from great military victories and marched through the city, watched by thousands of citizens and followed by the proud and tired army, while the population praised their greatness and holiness, somebody always walked behind the emperors and whispered continuously:
“This is just an illusion, You are an ordinary human being.”
I will give you two examples of my own personal experience here:
Personal example 1: Playing video games
Here is a short example to show that this principle even works for video games.
When I was younger I spent most of my time playing video games (Warcraft 3 on battle.net for insiders
) and I became quite good. Everybody who plays this game online has their own stats page where wins and losses are recorded. And what happened?
After getting good stats, like 20 wins and 0 losses, I stopped training for a few weeks in order to keep up my good stats. My new self-image of a “good player” also prevented me from making the right decisions in battle – I tried to play it safe so that I win.
This sabotaged my success once again – until I realized that I just have to train continously to keep getting better.
Personal example 2: Meeting women
Two years ago, when I was 19 years old, I had absolutely zero experience with women. Up until that time, I never held a conversation with a woman that lasted more than 30 minutes. I thought that I might never get a girlfriend because I did not look good enough.
So in order to improve my dating life, I started going out and practiced becoming more open to meeting and talking to people – this included trying to get girls into my bed. In the last 2 years I have approached about 3000 women.
I learned not to identify with failure anymore. If I crashed and burned I would just press on and not think about it anymore. (“crashed and burned” means the girl turns back to me or says things like “go away” or something).
Then after several months of going out I gradually became more successful with women and managed to build myself a glorious positive self-image.
However, immediately after feeling successful with women I experienced great failure. This cycle occurred every few weeks, sometimes even twice a week when I went out a lot. It was a period of constant up-and-downs, having the best night of my life and then not even being able to talk to women the next day.
After many months I realized that the cause was from identifying with positive results of my actions. I would come out of the club thinking “I” kissed two beautiful girls. This was the illusion. One night would be a glorious success, and the next night nothing would work. I tried to maintain my newly found positive self-image. It was my personal house of cards. One blow and it is destroyed.
With the self-image of a guy who is “good with women” I played it safe and did not enjoy myself. Not enjoying yourself authentically means no success with women!
I used my old stories and jokes again(totally out of context – they worked last night!), but they would end up sounding awkward because I was trying to force success.
Clearly this did not work and I was thoroughly depressed. I would become successful, forming a new self-image. But then I would crash and my self-image would be destroyed. And this would happen over and over again.
That is until I stopped identifying with the results of my actions. In other words, I stopped mixing the “I” with the results. And then sex just happened naturally, like magic. ;) Things just happen now.
Conclusion
Identifying yourself with anything is limiting yourself. Just do whatever you do, and do it with your total being and with all your heart. Total abundance will follow. Your results will be limitless, just like you are.
There is no need to put in effort in changing your thought patterns. Embrace this moment totally and everything will become effortless!
Posted on August 19, 2009




Are you saying We Should take ourselves away from the end results we create thru positive thinking?
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Interesting perspective….
…I may not always agree but good to hear a diff point of view
Dave
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I thought this post might be a bit controversial, but that is ok, I allowed this guest post anyway. I think it is nice to challenge our states of mind in life and always nice to read other people’s perspectives on things, such as positivity in this article.
I think bottomline the point that this post makes is (and this is just my humble opinion) is…
Don’t rely on all your positive outcomes to last. When you “put all your eggs in one basket” so to speak, and things DO go well and end up positive, in many cases…it does not last. You may land that dream date, get that mansion, etc. and it may make you happy…temporarily. Then there is always more that one wants.
Happiness is fleeting. It passes like the weather. The good news is, we can cultivate happiness by not being too attached to “things” or “outcomes” and simply enjoy what we do have, and know, that this too shall pass. And happiness will eventually rise again, more often than not.
It really just comes down to appreciation of what IS.
Dayne
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This was definitely an interesting read. Though I definitely don’t agree with the part of getting rid of positivity (at ALL!), I do agree with the idea that labels are limiting. If you say you’re a positive or negative person (or whatever adjective you want to use there), you feel that you must be that person. It’s important to be who you are and to be content with that fact. You have to accept things as they are which, to me, is a positive thing.
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Positively Present, I agree! Well said!
I frequently write about the fallacy of the ideas that are about positivity, optimism and the Law of Attraction and the like. You’re right, it’s controversial.
There is of course nothing wrong with any of these; in fact, Truth is positive and optimistic, and there is truth in the Law of Attraction–and I say that from personal experience, and repetition of beliefs.
The problem is slapping on positive thinking on top of negativity and limiting beliefs and fears cannot work. As you point it, all it does it put more limits on us.
Release all delusions, and what is left is positivity itself.
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I meant to type: and I say that from personal experience, and not the repetition of beliefs.
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At first I was kind of taken aback by this post, but then I read Dayne’s response and was reminded about the importance of listening to diverse opinions. I then re-read the post and noticed what I thought was a very interesting point. While I do genuinely believe we should monitor our thoughts and having positive thoughts is imperative, I thought the post was making a very important point about detachment (as Dayne also mentioned) and cautioning us about the issues with classifying things as either positive or negative. I know I sometimes get attached to having a certain outcome and have thought I knew exactly what was a positive outcome and what was a negative one. The reality was I had no idea and those things I believed at the time were negative, in hindsight have been some of the best things that could have ever happened to me. Perhaps I am reading too much into the post, but I do believe there is something to be said about not getting too attached with having what we have classified as positive things in our life.
Thanks for sharing my post!
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Dayne,
During my many transformation phases, I come back to reflect and, you’re right, the emotional roller coasters in life are all due to the realization that our goals aren’t meant. Because we feel the need to compare ourselves to other people’s goals and accomplishments–and our own–we’re never truly living in the present.
Instead, we encourage our own negative positive thinking to circle back and keep us in limbo. Even when we think we’re making progress, if we let ourselves compare our present accomplishment to that of one from the past, we raise our own bar and get upset if we can’t reach it again.
Wonderful post, Dayne. I will mention you, this blog, and your blog on my site.
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Very interesting read. I can totally relate with what you said. If you just don’t expect results, you are virtually unbreakable because nothing will bother you!
Great post, I agree with much of it and have a up coming post on the whole area of postive thinking
Great post!
The concept of both ‘positive’ & ‘Negative’ thoughts etc are judgmental and that comes from illusion.
Truth has no need to go beyond that it is…….once truth is stretched from ‘just is’ to ‘good/bad’ it is distorted into a dream made to seem real!
All that is, is a glorious spontaneous and timeless brilliance. No ‘Nows’ either, for that takes on with it a ‘before & after’……………..which doesn’t exist.
Existence IS period.
If ones perceives a ‘need’ then one has tricked oneself into an illusion of ‘lacking’ which just doesn’t exist.
Allness is fully equipped as it were or else it just would not be…………….